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This section of our website (which is updated daily) contains some less formal – and short – e-mail exchanges that we’ve had which we feel may be of value to our readers.  We will include those portions of the exchanges we deem relevant and valuable.  We often add bolding and underlining which are not necessarily that of the other party.  This section also frequently includes, not only e-exchanges we have, but also our notes, updates and comments. Section containing some important recent posts.

New Video Posted

Francis Calls Same-Sex Acts A “Gift” In New Autobiography!

St. Patrick’s Day And Water Baptism


March 17, 2024

Truth

Francis Calls Same-Sex Acts A “Gift” In New Autobiography!

Another truth nuke from MHFM, thank you!

A Sanctus

Comment

Francis Calls Same-Sex Acts A “Gift” In New Autobiography!

Thank you… you have made an excellent summary of many arguments…

Unam

St. Patrick’s Day

MHFM

St. Patrick is a great saint. This post contains an interesting quote from a letter of St. Patrick. In the passage St. Patrick indicates that no adult is saved without baptism when speaking about the newly-baptized converts who had been slain by the soldiers of Coroticus. He teaches that his labors to make sure these people left the world baptized were not in vain (but necessary): https://vaticancatholic.com/st-patrick-on-one-baptism/

The End (Or Purpose) Is A Cause – Final Cause


March 15, 2024

The End (Or Purpose) Is a Cause – Final Cause

St. Thomas Aquinas, Commentary On Metaphysics, Book 5, L. 2, Definition of Cause: “For to ask why or for what reason is to ask about a cause, because when we are asked why or for what reason someone walks, we reply properly by answering that he does so in order to be healthy. And when we answer in this way we are stating a cause. Hence it is evident that the end [or purpose] is a cause.”

Needs To See

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

The entire world needs to see this.

Jsmum

Comment

How To Avoid Sin

Incredible. Thank you for your work. Ave María.

Alvarado

Frightening

How To Avoid Sin

That was truly frightening.

John Jeevan

Shocked Into Action

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

This video has helped shock me into action. Thank you.

Samia

Francis & “Cardinal” Dolan Endorse Ramadan


March 14, 2024

MHFM: Antipope Francis and “Cardinal” Dolan both recently endorsed the Islamic observance of Ramadan. That's an expression of apostasy. It's typical of the Vatican II Sect’s religious indifferentism, and it's based on Vatican II (as our material proves). Here’s what a true pope said about Islamic practices:

Pope Clement V, Council of Vienne, 1311-1312: “It is an insult to the holy name and a disgrace to the Christian faith that in certain parts of the world subject to Christian princes where Saracens [i.e., the followers of Islam, also called Muslims] live, sometimes apart, sometimes intermingled with Christians, the Saracen priests, commonly called Zabazala, in their temples or mosques, in which the Saracens meet to adore the infidel Mahomet, loudly invoke and extol his name each day at certain hours from a high place… There is a place, moreover, where once was buried a certain Saracen whom other Saracens venerate as a saint.  This brings disrepute on our faith and gives great scandal to the faithful.  These practices cannot be tolerated without displeasing the divine majesty.  We therefore, with the sacred council’s approval, strictly forbid such practices henceforth in Christian lands.  We enjoin on Catholic princes, one and all… They are to remove this offense together from their territories and take care that their subjects remove it, so that they may thereby attain the reward of eternal happiness.  They are to forbid expressly the public invocation of the sacrilegious name of Mahomet… Those who presume to act otherwise are to be so chastised by the princes for their irreverence, that others may be deterred from such boldness.”

Started the conversion process to true Catholicism


March 12, 2024

Discovered The Truth

Dear MHFM,

As an ex-believer of what I now realize as the false and heretical Vatican II sect, I have recently discovered the truth in Sedevacantism and the Traditional Catholic viewpoint as the one and only path to salvation and in this realization have begun the conversion process to true Catholicism…

Thank you MHFM for your great work professing true religion under God.

Cheers,
Jaxon V.

Lot’s Virtue While Living In Sodom


Scariest Thing

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

This is the scariest thing I’ve ever heard. I’m going to confession TODAY!

Jessica Frieboes

MHFM

Hello. You can't just go to any alleged 'priest' today for confession, since the new rite of ordination is invalid (and for other reasons), as our material explains. Before making a valid confession, one must also agree on all the issues of faith. If you contact us, we can help you with a valid option (assuming you're in agreement on all the issues of faith). We also recommend that Catholics, if they can, pray 15 decades of the Rosary each day and the Hail Mary frequently.

Lot’s Virtue While Living In Sodom

St. John Chrysostom, Homily 43 On Genesis, On Lot Living In The Corrupt City Of Sodom: “The extraordinary degree of this good man’s virtue is really remarkable in that, though living in the midst of such villains, he... even gave evidence of much greater virtue; while all had tumbled into the abyss, so to say, he alone in all that multitude was treading the straight and narrow.”

Comment

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

Brothers,

Thank you for making the shocking new video, Man Shot & Saw Hell. This is a big wake up call for all the false traditionalists and other heretics out there who refuse to accept sedevacantism or the absolute necessity of the sacrament of baptism for salvation. God will severely punish their dishonesty and bad will… the experience of the man in your video matches the Catholic faith and the experiences of many Saints. The details he described should inspire the fear of God in anyone. How important it is to pray the Rosary everyday and to have true devotion to Mary…

God Bless,
Chris White

Devils Laughing In Hell?


March 11, 2024

Renewed Urgency

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

Thank you for your new video about the man that was shot and saw Hell. It has given me a renewed urgency to work for the conversion of sinners…

M

Devils Laughing In Hell?

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

How can devils laugh in Hell when there is no pleasure there?

MHFM

The Vision of Drytheim and the experience of the man covered in our recent video report that demons laugh in Hell as they attack and torture people. Their laughing in Hell, however, is not a manifestation of actual pleasure (which they completely lack) but rather of utter hatred, mockery and disdain. In an analogous way, many people in this life laugh at good people, sound advice, and sound teaching out of mockery and contempt, even though they are actually miserable, insecure and unhappy.

St. Thomas Aquinas: People become heretics for defending that which is contrary to the faith


St. Thomas On Heresy

MHFM: In this passage St. Thomas teaches that people become heretics for defending that which is contrary to the faith. Thus, heresy is found in a contradiction of a particular truth of faith, and not merely in rejecting the Church completely as the rule of faith, as various false traditionalists inaccurately claim.

St. Thomas Aquinas, Commentary On The Sentences, D. 25, A. 2, Reply 2: “The simple are not condemned as heretics because they do not know the articles, but because they stubbornly defend the things that are contrary to the articles. This they would not do unless they were to have a faith corrupted by heresy.”

On The Demons Torturing Lost Souls


March 9, 2024

Video Posted

Man Shot & Saw Hell - Shocking Must-See Video

MHFM: This is an absolute, must-see video. Please share it as well.

Comment

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

Deo Gratias and God bless you. This is one of your best videos. Very powerful.

Joanna

Needed This

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

This is actually incredible. Thank you so much for the video. I needed this.

Joe

Comment

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

I was conflicted this Lenten season, how do I change my ways?! I have heard this testimony just in time to save my soul, I believe…

Suzy

Watched

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

Absolutely terrifying revealing story. Watched this once by myself gave me chills. Watched a second time with my parents…

Brian Shaughnessy

On The Demons Torturing Lost Souls

MHFM: Abbot Marmion (an Irish Benedictine Abbot who died in 1923) wrote the following about demons torturing lost souls in Hell:

“Here is another terrifying aspect of the pains of hell: the lost soul is given over to the power of the demons. The nature of these spirits, which is absolutely simple, has been irrevocably deformed. They are entirely evil; their only occupation is to hate and to injure. Although, here on earth, their power is restricted, Holy Scripture describes them none the less as beings to be feared ‘like lions seeking whom they may devour’ (1 Pet 5:8). But, in hell, where the damned, abandoned by God, are given entirely into their power, into this exterior darkness, in hell the devils have free play. They cast themselves upon their prey to plague them without respite, to inflict upon them indescribable evils.” (Abbot Marmion, Christ, The Ideal Of The Priest, p. 111)

Impactful

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

Thank you for sharing, Brothers... this has been truly impactful.

Miros

Important Video

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

This is one of the most important videos you've made…

Milanlatona

Absolutely Bone Chilling; Opening His Eyes; Bible Verses & Quotes


March 7, 2024

Absolutely Bone Chilling

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

Absolutely bone chilling…

Crownwire

Very Powerful

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

Wow very powerful!

H

Comment

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

This video frightened me to the point I can't even begin to explain. It confirmed (even more) that I must always increase my efforts to gain eternal life.

Joao

Opening His Eyes

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

Thank you for opening my eyes.

Ryan Franca

Bible Verses & Quotes

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

ABSOLUTELY AMAZING VIDEO! Thank you so much for showing bible verses and quotes from the church fathers that back up what he said. Not only do these quotes give credence to his story, but they show that the church fathers and the tradition we traditional Catholics follow is the one and only truth of our Lord Jesus Christ!

Sandy Kathawa

Astounding

Man Shot & Saw Hell – Shocking Must-See Video

Astounding…

Watrew

The People Were Rebellious & Obstinate During Ezekiel’s Time


March 4, 2024

Ezekiel 2:3-4: “And saying: Son of man, I send you to the children of Israel, to a rebellious people, which has revolted from me, they, and their fathers, have transgressed my covenant even unto this day. And they to whom I send you are children of a hard face, and of an obstinate heart…”

Ezekiel Teaches That Justification Can Be Lost


MHFM: The absurd Protestant heresy of “once justified always justified” is also refuted in the Old Testament Book of Ezekiel.

Ezekiel 3:19-20: “… if you give warning to the wicked, and he be not converted from his wickedness, and from his evil way: he indeed shall die in his iniquity, but you have delivered your soul. Moreover if the just man shall turn away from his justice, and shall commit iniquity: I will lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die, because you have not given him warning: he shall die in his sin, and his justices which he hath done, shall not be remembered: but I will require his blood at you hand.”

What Millions Of Fake Christians Get Wrong About Ephesians

Pilate’s Fault


March 3, 2024

Pilate’s Fault

Pope St. Leo the Great, Sermon 59: “Pilate’s fault is indeed, less than the Jews’ crime; for it was they who terrified him with Caesar’s name, chided him with hateful words, and drove him to perpetrate his wickedness.  But he also did not escape incrimination for playing into the hands of those that made the uproar, for abandoning his own judgment, and for acquiescing in the charges of others.”

Satan can only do what God allows him to do


Job & God’s Permission

MHFM: The Book of Job reveals that Satan can only do what God allows him to do.

Job 2:3-7: “And the Lord said to Satan, ‘Have you considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil?  He still holds fast his integrity, although you incited me against him to destroy him without reason.’ Then Satan answered the Lord and said, ‘Skin for skin! All that a man has he will give for his life. But stretch out your hand and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse you to your face.’ And the Lord said to Satan, ‘Behold, he is in your hand; only spare his life. So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord and struck Job with loathsome sores from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head.”

“I had no idea that JPII was a wolf in sheep’s clothing”


March 2, 2024

Thrilled To Discover

Apocalypse Now In The Vatican

I had no idea that JPII was a wolf in sheep’s clothing. I was at convent school when the two John Pauls made their entrances. It makes me sad, that so much damage was knowingly done to the faith, while we just accepted it all; but I am thrilled to be able to discover proper Catholicism...

Ms Dormy

Open To Joining Church But What About Galatians 2?


March 1, 2024

Brothers I have an extremely important question. I am 100% open to joining the Church I just have one question about the Holy See of Rome. Peter himself was rebuked by Paul during the council of acts. Paul showed Peter the error in his belief that the gentiles must be circumcised. This is covered in Galatians 2. If the pope (Peter) was incorrect in doctrine how does this lead to the belief of papal infallibility. The lesser bishop Paul rebuked the Pope, Peter in this passage. How do I reconcile this?

Deacon

MHFM

Actually, the evidence is overwhelming that the 'Cephas' rebuked by St. Paul in Galatians 2 was not St. Peter. We have an in-depth video on this matter: Did St. Paul Really Rebuke St. Peter In Galatians 2? We encourage you to view it. God wants you to become a traditional Catholic. Our material explains how to do that.

Pope Pius IX Against The Enormous Crime Of Blasphemy


February 29, 2024

Pope Pius IX Against The Enormous Crime Of Blasphemy

Pope Pius IX, Gravibus Ecclesiae (#13), Dec. 24, 1874: “See that your people may come to detest the enormous crime of blasphemy, which violates everything these days.”

Mother Teresa’s Apostasy

Why Mother Teresa Was Not A Saint

Thank you for this insightful video…

Mainlog

“Orthodoxy’s” Problem With Councils


February 28, 2024

John 3:5 Mockers Refuted

John 3:5 Mockers Stumped (1917 Code, Delayed Ensoulment, “Baptism Of Desire”)

This video is a masterpiece, John 3:5 mockers refuted at every turn.

JMN

“Orthodoxy’s” Problem With Councils

Eastern “Orthodoxy’s” Fatal Flaw On Bishops & Ecumenical Councils

Very very helpful, thank you! I was discerning Eastern Orthodoxy but the inability of the Eastern Orthodox to define or convene an ecumenical council is a big problem that made me stick with Rome.

Christian

MHFM

It’s also crucial to be a traditional Catholic, as our material explains.

Pope St. Leo IX Against Heresies And Schisms


February 27, 2024

Pope St. Leo IX Against Heresies And Schisms

Pope St. Leo IX, Epistle To Michael Of Constantinople, AD 1054: “Therefore let heresies and schisms cease, and soon there will be no scandal to those loving the law of God, but much peace. Let whoever glories in the Christian name cease to curse and wound the Holy Roman and Apostolic Church; for whoever dishonors the wife [i.e. the Church] honors the father of the house in vain.”

Evidence For God

Amazing Evidence For God – Scientific Evidence For God

That was such an amazing video.

Jen S

Charismatic Movement

Charismatic “Christianity” Exposed

Very good…

Winder

“This was a great refutation of Eastern Heterodoxy”


February 26, 2024

Refutation Of Eastern Heterodoxy

“Orthodoxy” Devastated, Catholicism Vindicated, By The 7th Council (Nicaea II)

This was a great refutation of Eastern Heterodoxy, thank you for exposing their lies and deception Despite the Eastern Heterodox basing their entire theology of "Theosis" on 2 Peter 1:4, and the idea of "essence vs energy" distinction (the teaching that we cannot partake of the Essence of God and but only partake in his Energies) I was actually shocked to learn that Palamas admitted that the energies that he is teaching are not the divine nature of God as stated in 2 Peter 1:4!...

HH

Out Of The Vatican II Sect

The New Mass Lacks The “Mystery Of Faith” (Novus Ordo Modernists Refuted)

If you can’t hear the truth in this video., and do not get out of Vatican II, you are under the grip of Satan…

Susan

Bad Intention

The New Mass Lacks The “Mystery Of Faith” (Novus Ordo Modernists Refuted)

… the intention is clear why those words were moved out of the consecration into some other place. Probably to appease the unbelief in transubstantiation of those Protestants who helped form the new mass.

Paxsincera

How Heretics Are Dominated By Demons


February 24, 2024

Bellarmine On How Heretics Are Dominated By Demons

MHFM: This is an interesting quote from St. Robert Bellarmine concerning how heretics are dominated by demons and how the Devil uses them for his own purposes, even when they appear to oppose each other.

St. Robert Bellarmine, De Christo, Book 1, Preface: “When therefore he [Valentinus]... under the impulse of that mad spirit of his, was busy renewing Arianism, Calvin meanwhile is driven by another spirit to oppose Valentinus, the demons in this manner playing a game amongst themselves!” (De duplici genere hostium Divinitatis Christi)

Jewish Man Converts

The New Mass Lacks The “Mystery Of Faith” (Novus Ordo Modernists Refuted)

… Thank you so much for your monumental efforts!... God Bless you... and those who help to make this apostolate amazing...! Just so you know, I recently meet a Jewish man on a social media site, who converted to Catholicism (N.O.), but found your site and is now a traditionalist due to your work... Again... thank you for your unwavering dedication to true Catholicism!

Kathy

Must Be Signified By The Form


Video Posted

The New Mass Lacks The “Mystery Of Faith” (Novus Ordo Modernists Refuted)

Must Be Signified By The Form

The New Mass Lacks The “Mystery Of Faith” (Novus Ordo Modernists Refuted)

What you failed to quote from Florence is when the council said: “There should not be offered in the chalice of the Lord either wine only or water only but both mixed together, because both blood and water are said to have flowed from Christ's side'; also because it is fitting to signify the effect of this sacrament, which is the union of the Christian people with Christ. For, water signifies the people according to those words of the Apocalypse: many waters, many peoples.” So the union of the faithful is signified when wine and water are mixed together, which is fine is the Mass of St. Paul VI. So your argument about form is therefore invalid.

Roundtable

MHFM

You are quite wrong. What you have referenced pertains to the matter, not to the form. You fail to understand that the grace effected by the sacrament must be signified by the form (see the quote from Pope Leo XIII below), and it was not with the ‘for all’ mistranslation. (The deliberate removal of ‘mysterium fidei’ is a separate problem, as the video explains).

Pope Leo XIII, Apostolicae Curae, Sept 13, 1896: “All know that the Sacraments of the New Law, as sensible and efficient signs of invisible grace, ought both to signify the grace which they effect, and effect the grace which they signify. Although the signification ought to be found in the whole essential rite, that is to say, in the ‘matter and form’, IT STILL PERTAINS CHIEFLY TO THE ‘FORM’; since the ‘matter’ is the part which is not determined by itself, but which is determined by the ‘form’… That ‘form’ consequently cannot be considered apt or sufficient for the Sacrament which omits what it ought essentially to signify.”

So, as we can see, your argument is invalid, just like the invalid New Mass. Moreover, the fact that you think Antipope Paul VI, a notorious heretic and religious indifferentist, was a saint just reveals (in charity) how uninformed you are about the current situation. See our video about him: “Saint” Paul VI’s Heresies.

“I was a blind catechist in the Vatican II Sect and MHFM's work caused the scales to fall from my eyes”


February 23, 2024

Scales Fell

The New Mass Lacks The “Mystery Of Faith” (Novus Ordo Modernists Refuted)

I was a blind catechist in the Vatican II Sect and MHFM's work caused the scales to fall from my eyes. I am now, blessedly, aware of the historic, magisterial, traditional dogmas of the real Catholic Church. God bless this ministry.

Joseph Boyat

Comment

The New Mass Lacks The “Mystery Of Faith” (Novus Ordo Modernists Refuted)

Outstanding.... May God bless you Brothers.

Samuel

Research

The New Mass Lacks The “Mystery Of Faith” (Novus Ordo Modernists Refuted)

Great research…

Martha

Extra Details

The New Mass Lacks The “Mystery Of Faith” (Novus Ordo Modernists Refuted)

Thank you for this video with extra details on why the Novus Ordo Mass is invalid…

Carrie Jones

God raised up judges for them, but they would not listen


February 20, 2024

They Did All Things Contrary

MHFM: This, sadly, describes the vast majority of humanity from the beginning to our own day.

Spirituality

“And the Lord raised up judges, to deliver them from the hands of those that oppressed them: but they would not hearken to them, committing fornication with strange gods, and adoring them.  They quickly forsook the way in which their fathers had walked: and hearing the commandments of the Lord, they did all things contrary.” (Judges 2:16-17)

Doctrine

Pope Leo XIII: “The defense of Catholicism, indeed, necessarily demands that in the profession of doctrines taught by the Church all shall be of one mind and all steadfast in believing…” (Immortale Dei #46, Nov. 1, 1885)

Had No Idea; Eye-Opening Indeed; Papacy In The East


Video Posted

John 3:5 Mockers Stumped (1917 Code, Delayed Ensoulment, “Baptism Of Desire”)

Had No Idea

John 3:5 Mockers Stumped (1917 Code, Delayed Ensoulment, “Baptism Of Desire”)

Wow! I had no idea that the idea of delayed ensoulment had been so rampant and widespread in fallible documents over the last 500+ years. It really drives home the point about being careful about non-infallible documents. Thank you for this video.

H H

Eye-Opening Indeed

Did The Bible Predict 70 Years Without A Pope?

Eye-opening indeed!

Marcus

Papacy In The East

Eastern “Orthodoxy” Debunked On St. Peter’s Authority By St. John Of Damascus

Very good video.

Daniel Allerborn

Pope Stephen III On Firmness Of Mind


February 19, 2024

Pope Stephen III On Firmness Of Mind

Pope Stephen III, To Charles and Carloman (Codex Epistolaris Carolinus 45), 769: “When we remember the eminent lives and meritorious conduct of all God’s elect, we certainly find that no change in their condition can move them from their state of mind and pristine constancy of commitment. Therefore, despite being besieged by the various promptings and allurements of the ancient enemy, they have maintained unalterably their firmness of mind, and as a result have deservedly attained with triumphant victory the joys they hoped for. It is to be noted in particular that, if anyone is seduced and overcome by any prompting, he deviates at once from the right path that leads to eternal life, and so descends on a steep incline and falls into headlong ruin.”

Adhering To Dogma

My name is Diego and I am a Catholic… I thank you for the dedication of the Most Holy Family Monastery in spreading truth of the Catholic Faith and adhering to dogma. God bless you guys… With Charity,

Diego Witkowski

Grace Of Regeneration Began With Christ’s Resurrection


February 17, 2024

Comment

John 3:5 Mockers Stumped (1917 Code, Delayed Ensoulment, “Baptism Of Desire”)

… Outstanding work.

Sebastian Moncada

Grace Of Regeneration Began With His Resurrection

John 3:5 Mockers Stumped (1917 Code, Delayed Ensoulment, “Baptism Of Desire”)

If the old testament saints are in heaven now, that would mean they were born again before going to heaven, so if they can received the Sacrament of baptism even though they are dead, without physical going to the baptism, why can't God do the same for people who died before wanting to be baptized?

Pdub

MHFM

The Old Testament righteous were not born again without baptism. As Leo the Great teaches, "the grace of regeneration began with His resurrection" (citation below). Further, in this video we present the evidence that they were all baptized (even though they died before the Law of Baptism was promulgated): Jesus’ Descent Into Hell & The Baptism Of The Good Thief

Pope St. Leo the Great, Letter 16, Oct 21, 447: “... after He rose from the dead, handed on both the form and power of baptizing to His disciples, in whose person all the chiefs of the churches received their instructions with these words, ‘Go ye and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.’ On which of course He might have instructed them even before His passion, had He not especially wished it to be understood that the grace of regeneration began with His resurrection.”

God has declared, and the Church infallibly teaches, that all need baptism for salvation. Further, no one who dies outside the Church in the New Testament period can be saved, and only the baptized are in the Church.

2 Cor. 4:17 Shows That Works Are Necessary For Salvation


2 Cor. 4:17 Shows That Works Are Necessary For Salvation

St. Robert Bellarmine, De Iustificatione, Book 4, Chap. 7: “‘For the momentary lightness of our tribulation works for us above measure exceedingly an eternal weight of glory.’ (2 Cor. 4:17) How could it be said more plainly? If patience in tribulation works an eternal weight of glory, who can deny that there is some relation between patience and salvation?”

Irrefutable

A Big Problem For "Orthodoxy": St. Gregory Of Nyssa & The Filioque

These videos are so great and irrefutable.

Billy H

Vindication Of Authentic Catholic Teaching; Decretals Of Gregory IX


February 14, 2024

Vindication Of Authentic Catholic Teaching

John 3:5 Mockers Stumped (1917 Code, Delayed Ensoulment, “Baptism Of Desire”)

Another Striking Vindication of Authentic Catholic Teaching.

Deus Vult

Decretals Of Gregory IX

John 3:5 Mockers Stumped (1917 Code, Delayed Ensoulment, “Baptism Of Desire”)

This is an excellent video!... It also addresses the Decretals of Gregory IX… Thank you for yet another amazing and scholarly video in defense of the true position on Baptism.

C O

Comment

John 3:5 Mockers Stumped (1917 Code, Delayed Ensoulment, “Baptism Of Desire”)

What a masterpiece. Wonderfully made and contains tactful, easy-to-understand arguments. This is a great response to the “refutations” of John 3:5 mockers. Incredible job brothers. Another great video by mhfm.

Mark

“Where does the Church teach that God would NOT take a person’s life before baptism while they are being catechized?”


Providence & Baptism

John 3:5 Mockers Stumped (1917 Code, Delayed Ensoulment, “Baptism Of Desire”)

Where does the Church teach that God would NOT take a person’s life before baptism while they are being catechized? It would be a cruel god that would damn a person while they desired to be in the Church but still needed to be taught for baptism.

Jamie

MHFM

To your first question, the Church teaches that everyone in Heaven from the New Testament period receives baptism (Pope Benedict XII, Benedictus Deus) and that no one can be saved without water baptism (Trent, Sess. 5, Original Sin, etc.). Further, Pope St. Leo the Great and Pope St. Siricius both teach that for unbaptized catechumens in any situation (including accidents, persecutions, etc.), the only way for them to be saved is to actually receive water baptism. They taught that in two of the most important papal decretals in the early Church:

https://vaticancatholic.com/pope-st-leo-the-great-contradicts-baptism-of-blood-desire/

https://vaticancatholic.com/latin-text-oldest-surviving-papal-decree-rejects-baptism-desire/

Ergo, God in His providence will keep all of His elect alive so that they can receive the Sacrament. St. Augustine expressed it well in his final work Against Julian.

St. Augustine, Against Julian, Book 5, Chap. 4: “Of the number of the elect and predestined, even those who have led the very worst kind of life are led to repentance through the goodness of God… Not one of them perishes, regardless of his age at death; never be it said that a man predestined to life would be permitted to end his life without the sacrament of the Mediator [Baptism]. Because of these men, our Lord says: ‘This is the will of him who sent me, the Father, that I should lose nothing of what he has given me.’”

We also see examples of this in the case of missionaries such as St. Isaac Jogues. Here are just two quotes from his life:

The Life of St. Isaac Jogues, p. 92: “Then, most of all [the heathens concluded], the Blackrobes caused people to die by pouring water on their heads; practically everyone they baptized died soon after.”

The Life of St. Isaac Jogues, p. 225: “Two of the Hurons, Jogues learned, were to be burned to death that night at Tionontoguen. He stayed with them on the platform and concentrated his appeals on them. Finally they consented. About that moment, the Mohawks threw the prisoners some raw corn that had been freshly plucked. The sheaths [of the corn] were wet from the recent rains. Father Jogues carefully gathered the precious drops of water on a leaf and poured them over the heads of the two neophytes [new converts], baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. The Mohawks understood that his [Jogues’] act meant to bring happiness to these hated victims. They raged at his audacity and beat him down, threatening to slaughter him with the Hurons… That night the two Hurons [whom he had baptized] were burned over the fire.”

Other examples can be found in these files:

https://vaticancatholic.com/st-isaac-jogues-st-francis-xavier-vs-invincible-ignorance/

https://vaticancatholic.com/miraculous-baptisms/

“The contrast in precision between your works and those of your many detractors is glaringly stark”


February 13, 2024

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John 3:5 Mockers Stumped (1917 Code, Delayed Ensoulment, “Baptism Of Desire”)

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John 3:5 Mockers Stumped (1917 Code, Delayed Ensoulment, “Baptism Of Desire”)

The contrast in precision between your works and those of your many detractors is glaringly stark. I notice that yours are painstakingly exact, while theirs are only as specific as need be to suit their commonly foul purposes.

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John 3:5 Mockers Stumped (1917 Code, Delayed Ensoulment, “Baptism Of Desire”)

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