Fr. Moderator affirms that John Paul II may be Saintly

Heresy of the Week, Week of 2/04/05
By Bro. Peter Dimond
For more see: Heresies of the Week Relating to “Traditional” Issues and Persons

Some of you are familiar with “Fr. Moderator,” who is a well-known “traditionalist.”  He denounces the Vatican II sect as a false church but defends that the hierarchy of this sect is still the Catholic hierarchy.  He also holds that the apostate John Paul II is the Pope, even though he admits that his “Church” (the Vatican II/Conciliar Church) is a non-Catholic sect.  Fr. Moderator was recently asked about miracles relating to John XXIII; his response is astoundingly evil.

Dear Fr. Moderator:

Reading the sad history of Modernism leading up to Vatican II and seeing that Pope John XXIII had, directly and/or indirectly, assisted the advance of Modernism, do you know if there has been a real miracle from God associated with John XXIII that will be used for his canonization? If so, how can a traditional Catholic reconcile a miracle from God with the history of John XXIII? Would a miracle for the instigator of Vatican II mean that God meant to have Vatican II (although maybe not the way it was implemented)?

Fr. Moderator Replies.

Such a miracle, if it is ever properly proven (and for that we must wait until after the Church is fully restored, and the investigative process for beatifications and canonizations are restored to that which ensures their validity) can be very easily reconciled, because a miracle could in no way bear upon Vatican II.

You are looking in the wrong place for your Catholic Faith. Catholics are not pagans who look for God's truth from the incantations of a tribal witch-doctor or the entrails of a sacrificial animal or Tarot cards or even purported miracles. Miracles are not dogma. The Catholic Faith is taught to us from Our Lord Jesus Christ, through His Public Revelation, that is, Sacred Scripture (the Bible) and Sacred Tradition.

Whether John XXIII was a Saint or not, no miracle would prove anything about the wisdom or folly of his ecclesiastical policies. It would bear upon his personal sanctity, which could well be substantially internal and known primarily to God. Take the case of the present pope, for example. We know that a good deal of what he has done and failed to do toys dangerously with contravening the Catholic teaching of his 260 predecessors and 20 dogmatic councils. Moreover, he has surrounded himself with his own appointed rogues in purple and scarlet and allowed them to take possession of the Church -- rogues who have forsworn their sacred oaths to God by practicing and advocating the sacrilege of a New Religion, have preyed upon the innocent, have stolen church money and property, and have caused great scandal to the Church. JPII appointed all these ecclesiocrats and refuses to raise his voice or hand in correction. That is evil -- just as evil, if not worse, than those predecessors of his that allowed similar affronts to Almighty God to occur in previous centuries.

Yet JPII may be saintly interiorly -- not because of what he has done with the Church, which is objectively evil, but perhaps because of interior virtues, such as long-suffering endured on account of his grave and debilitating illness. If he is ever found to be a Saint (and that cannot occur with certainly until the Church is fully restored by faithful bishops and popes, not promoters of the New Order), it will be primarily because of interior virtues and in no way confirm the evils of his actions and inactions in governing the Church.

Take an example. St. Augustine was a Saint, one of the greatest Saints of the Church. Yet he was once a heretic of the Manichean sect, a persistent fornicator with a woman out of wedlock, and the father of a child. Many miracles have been attributed to St. Augustine, but it would be blasphemous to hold that any such miracles were God's "blessing" on his sin. Quod Deus avertat!

Comment: This is Satanic.

“Woe to you that call evil good, and good evil: that put darkness for light, and light for darkness…” (Isaias 5:20)

To say that John Paul II may be saintly (after being aware of what he believes and has done) is like saying that Anton LaVey (the author of the Satanic Bible) may have been saintly.  Only a person with absolutely no Faith, who is totally blinded by the devil and in mortal sin, would ever assert that John Paul II may be saintly after being aware of what he has done.  This is such an abomination that it cries to heaven.  And Fr. Moderator is fully aware of what John Paul II has done. 

Fr. Moderator is a man who has clearly been used by Satan to misdirect traditional-minded Catholics.  I say again: anyone who believes that John Paul II may be saintly, if they are aware of his apostate actions, is a complete heretic and an apostate.  Anyone who says that JP2 can pray with all religions and allow them to worship false gods in “Catholic” churches (Assisi I and II); declare that we should not convert heretics and schismatics; agree with the Lutherans on Justification; endorse Judaism; kiss the Koran; ask for the protection of the false religion of Islam; consistently teach that false religions are of the Holy Ghost and “great”; give donations to heretical sects; teach that non-Catholics can receive Holy Communion; preside over wicked, pagan inculturation ceremonies with women who are sometimes topless; praise Luther and Calvin; and preside over the non-Catholic sect which is the Conciliar Church, just to name a few, and be saintly, is Satanic.

Pope Leo XIII, Tametsi future prospicientibus (#9), Nov. 1, 1900: “It is, then, evident that those whose intellect rejects the yoke of Christ are striving against God.”

In other words, those who submit to God – and are saintly – do the things of God; while those who reject Christ and deny His truth are wicked and are striving against God.  Those who are saintly do not perform wicked acts; they do not reject the Catholic Faith and endorse Satanic religions.  Notice that Fr. Moderator, like a serpent, tries to justify his abomination by preying upon people’s ignorance.  He brings up St. Augustine who was a great sinner, yet worked miracles.  Does anyone not see how stupid he thinks people are?  St. Augustine was a great sinner before he converted to the Catholic Faith and changed his life!  The miracles attributed to his intercession were due to his saintly life after his conversion.  Fr. Moderator is saying that John Paul II, while committing incessant acts of idolatry, sacrilege and apostasy, may be saintly!  Fr. Moderator, stop deceiving Catholics you non-Catholic apostate.

Fr. Moderator also shows that he has no Faith – and is a complete and utter schismatic – when he rejects the “Canonizations” of the man he deems to be Pope.  He teaches that the Catholic Church has defected.  Notice what he says:

“Yet JPII may be saintly interiorly -- not because of what he has done with the Church, which is objectively evil, but perhaps because of interior virtues, such as long-suffering endured on account of his grave and debilitating illness. If he is ever found to be a Saint (and that cannot occur with certainly [sic] until the Church is fully restored by faithful bishops and popes, not promoters of the New Order), it will be primarily because of interior virtues and in no way confirm the evils of his actions and inactions in governing the Church.”

This is formal heresy and schism.  1) He teaches that the Church needs restoration. 

Pope Gregory XVI, Mirari Vos (# 10), Aug. 15, 1832: “Therefore, it is obviously absurd and injurious to propose a certain ‘restoration and regeneration’ for her (the Church) as though necessary for her safety and growth, as if she could be considered subject to defect or obscuration or other misfortune.”

We’ve conversed with many traditional Catholics who have said the same thing (the Church needs “restoration”).  Many of these people were not necessarily heretics, even though they used this improper and imprecise wording, because they did not really believe that the Catholic Church has erred and they rejected the idea that a Pope could err when canonizing a Saint.  They were guilty of imprecise wording.  But, in Fr. Moderator’s case, he holds that the Catholic Church has officially erred and needs restoration, because he holds that the “Pope” of the Catholic Church can now give us non-Saints.

St. Alphonsus Liguori, The Great Means of Salvation and Perfection, 1759, p. 23:“To suppose that the Church can err in canonizing, is a sin, or is heresy, according to St. Bonaventure, Bellarmine, and others; or at least next door to heresy, according to Suarez, Azorius, Gotti, etc.; because the Sovereign Pontiff, according to St. Thomas, is guided by the infallible influence of the Holy Ghost in an especial way when canonizing saints.”

2) Thus, Fr. Moderator denies Papal Infallibility (which is exercised when a Pope canonizes a Saint); and he denies the indefectibility of the Church and of the Apostolic See.

Pope Pius XI, Quas Primas (# 22), Dec. 11, 1925: “Not least among the blessings which have resulted from the public and legitimate honor paid to the Blessed Virgin and the saints is the perfect and perpetual immunity of the Church from error and heresy.”

Pope Pius IX, Vatican Council I, Session 4, Chap. 4: “And since the sentiment of Our Lord Jesus Christ cannot be passed over when He says: ‘Thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my Church’ [Mt. 16:18], these words which were spoken are proven true by actual results, since in the Apostolic See the Catholic religion has always been preserved untainted, and holy doctrine celebrated.” (Denz. 1833)

3) Fr. Moderator also judges the Apostolic See, by denouncing as false the official actions of what he deems to be the Apostolic See (e.g., the “Canonizations” of John Paul II).  He is again condemned.

Pope St. Nicholas, epistle (8), Proposueramus quidem, 865: “… Neither by Augustus, nor by all the clergy, nor by religious, not by the people will the judge be judged… ‘The first seat will not be judged by anyone.” (Denz. 330)

Pope St. Leo IX, In terra pax hominibus, Sept. 2, 1053, Chap. 11: “By passing judgment on the great See, concerning which it is not permitted any man to pass judgment, you have received anathema from all the Fathers of the venerable Councils…” (Denz. 352)

This means that the solemn actions emanating from the Papal Office (the Apostolic See), such as Canonizations of Saints, cannot be questioned or denied.

For more see: Heresies of the Week Relating to “Traditional” Issues and Persons