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Refuting A Vatican II Sect Member On Vatican II And Religious Liberty
[A COMMENT] … Dignitatis Humanae defines religious freedom as an individual’s right to hold their own religious views and their right to not be coerced into adhering to a religious view. It doesn’t affirm that all religions have the right to public worship…
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What you have stated is flat out false. Vatican II explicitly teaches that religious liberty should be a civil right, the very position condemned by Pius IX.
Vatican II, Dignitatis Humanae #2: "This right of the human person to religious freedom is to be recognized in the constitutional law whereby society is governed and thus it is to become a civil right."
Pius IX condemned the following in Quanta Cura, Dec. 8, 1864: “From which totally false idea of social government they do not fear to foster that erroneous opinion, most fatal in its effects on the Catholic Church and the salvation of souls, called by Our predecessor, Gregory XVI, an insanity, NAMELY, THAT ‘LIBERTY OF CONSCIENCE AND WORSHIP IS EACH MAN’S PERSONAL RIGHT, WHICH OUGHT TO BE LEGALLY PROCLAIMED AND ASSERTED IN EVERY RIGHTLY CONSTITUTED SOCIETY.”
That by itself proves that Vatican II is heretical. Indeed, the Catholic constitutions of Colombia and Spain were changed after Vatican II and as a consequence of Dignitatis Humanae. Stop resisting the truth, and come out of the non-Catholic Vatican II Sect.
[HIS RESPONSE] … Bl. Pius IX, in Quanta Cura, defines religious freedom as a right (quoting from Gregory XVI) by which somebody is entitled to publicly manifest and declare their erroneous religious views. Dignitatis Humanae defines religious freedom as an individuals right to not be compelled to act contrary to their beliefs (within due reason, meaning they can’t manifest public immorality). Vatican II is working off a different definition of religious freedom in respect to what Gregory XVI and Bl. Pius IX condemned…
Our previous reply refuted what you wrote. However, your response is, one must say, absurd and it exposes your dishonesty. You claim that Vatican II’s endorsement of a civil right to religious liberty doesn’t include any right to public worship! That’s utter nonsense, of course. In direct contradiction of your false statement, Vatican II explicitly teaches that the civil right to religious liberty includes the right to “honor the supreme Being in public worship”.
Dignitatis Humanae #4: “Provided the just demands of public order are observed, religious communities rightfully claim freedom in order that they may govern themselves according to their own norms, honor the Supreme Being in public worship, assist their members in the practice of the religious life, strengthen them by instruction, and promote institutions in which they may join together for the purpose of ordering their own lives in accordance with their religious principles.”
That directly refutes your false claim. Other passages in Dignitatis Humanae teach the same thing. Vatican II’s teaching that religious communities are to be guaranteed a civil right to worship in public was explicitly condemned by the Church. The fact that a change in teaching was made is precisely why the constitutions of Colombia and Spain were changed after Vatican II to allow public worship for non-Catholic sects – a fact that demolishes your lie. We will not necessarily continue to refute your errors, since what has been written suffices and you are sadly obstinate and dishonest.
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