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A Warning about Certain Heretical “Traditionalist” Priests and Chapels
As Catholics know, the New Mass is not an option for a true Catholic, since it is neither a valid nor a licit rite of the Catholic Church. The only option for a Catholic for Mass and the Sacraments is the Traditional Latin Mass or Traditional Eastern Rite Liturgies (Uniate, not Orthodox, of course). The problem, however, is that almost all of the priests celebrating these traditional and valid Masses hold to one or more heresies. Almost all of them either 1) accept Benedict XVI as the Pope and his Bishops as the true hierarchy, or 2) deny the dogma Outside the Church There is No Salvation in its true meaning – that is, that all who die as non-Catholics are lost. Many of them hold to other heresies as well. That being the case, a Catholic cannot aid the propagation of heresy by financially supporting any of these priests, which includes almost all the priests celebrating these Traditional Masses. So the question is: can one attend the Masses of those priests celebrating valid traditional Masses who may hold to a heretical belief, as long as one doesn’t support the priest? Our position is that if the priest does not notoriously impose the heresy upon those at his church, then a person can arguably go to his Mass just to receive the sacraments but without supporting him in any way. (But there is no obligation to attend such a Mass, and each case must be evaluated individually). However, if the priest notoriously imposes his false beliefs upon those at the church – or even privately tells you or someone else that he doesn’t regard as a Catholic one who believes as you do – then a Catholic must not attend such a Mass under any circumstances, because to do so would be to tacitly agree with the priest’s false belief. It is also our position that if a priest is in favor of false ecumenism (i.e., the apostate movement to pray with false religions) – or believes that we shouldn’t convert non-Catholics – that one should not attend his Mass at all, besides not supporting him in any way. (The list that follows is a list of priests whose Masses or sacraments a Catholic should have nothing to do with, besides not supporting them, since these priests have notoriously imposed their heresy upon those at their churches. This list is by no means exhaustive, but just a beginning.) Dolan (Bishop) and Cekada (Fr. Anthony):
Bishop Dolan and Fr. Anthony Cekada are heretics who believe that souls can be saved in false religions and they publicly denounce “Feeneyites” (i.e., those who believe that only baptized Catholics can be saved) as guilty of mortal sin. Since they notoriously impose their heresy, a Catholic should avoid these heretics’ Masses and not receive any sacraments from them.Kelly (Bishop), Jenkins (Fr.), Baumberger (Fr.) and all priests of the Society of St. Pius V:
All the priests of the SSPV believe that souls can be saved in false religions and they publicly denounce “Feeneyites” (i.e., those who believe the dogma that only baptized Catholics can be saved). Since they notoriously impose their heresy, a Catholic should avoid these heretics’ Masses and not receive any sacraments from them.Gardner (Fr.) of the Society of St. Pius X:
In the Fall of 2004, from the pulpit of the SSPX Chapel in Pittsburgh, PA, Fr. Gardner announced that: “If you are a sedevacantist [i.e., if you don’t accept John Paul II as Pope], just leave, you are not welcome here. If anyone here is a Feeneyite [i.e., believes that only baptized Catholics can be saved], you are not welcome here.” Since Fr. Gardner is a notorious heretic, who has imposed his heretical and schismatical views upon those who attend his Mass, Catholics should avoid this pestilential heretic and not receive any sacraments from him or attend his Mass.Lovett (Fr.) of NJ: MHFM: You don't want to attend Fr. Lovett's Mass. He has some wacky views, including, as we've been told, that Our Lady is part of the Trinity. One should not attend his Mass [since he is a notorious heretic].
Thank you for your response. I had already gone (to Father Lovett's Mass) before hearing from you, but pretty much figured out he DOES have some wacky ideas. I questioned him for nearly two hours. Just a heads up for anyone interested in going to his Mass. Here is a summary -
1) He claims Christ has revealed that there is only to be a "general confession" and not auricular, although he "allows" auricular should the penitent desire to go.
2) The "faithful" should give themselves their own penance as they see fit.
3) The Mass is now to be brought into the home and NOT a church or chapel.
4) When questioning him on how the best way to rear our children to help them decide a religious vocation (what I was getting at was where would they go for religious training) his answer was that "he trains priests" and as far as women go, women will be able to "do the Mass in their homes as it was meant to be." I was outraged and asked him to clarify and he was VERY vague about it, but gave the example that if the Mass was to be held in the home and the woman is a widow, then she should have the means to perform the Mass herself. He even suggested that St. Therese of the Little Flower was often quite distraught because she, too, wanted to be able to perform the Mass and could not.
5) My husband asked him repeatedly the name of his "organization" as he claims they ARE the TRUE Catholic Church Remnant, he just referred us "to the book" (This is my Beloved Son, hear Him)
6) He believes the Chair of St. Peter is empty by MORTAL man, but claims Christ, Himself is now Pope until Peter II takes the chair.
7) He believes that after John XXIII a "Pope Clement XV" took the chair and died in the 80's.
That's about it. We left, never to return. He said I was a "mixed up girl". ;)
+JMJ+ KellyMHFM: Thanks for the information. We will share this with our readers. One of the master-strokes of the devil in these days has been to move shady and scandalous figures into the traditionalist clergy to attempt to disgrace the true Faith – so that people of weak Faith will get disenchanted and either run back to the Novus Ordo apostasy or give up altogether. One can think of many of similar heretics whom the devil is using. McKenna (Bishop Robert of Connecticut) and Fr. Lemay:
Bishop McKenna and Fr. Lemay believe that souls can be saved in false religions, and they refuse the sacraments to anyone who believes that only baptized Catholics can be saved. Since they are notorious heretics who impose their heretical views upon those at their Masses, Catholics should avoid these pestilential heretics’ Masses and not receive any sacraments from them.Neville (Fr. Robert) of Highland, MI:
Fr. Neville is a sedevacantist priest who denies the dogma Outside the Church There is No Salvation. After a person gave him a copy of our book Outside the Catholic Church There is Absolutely No Salvation, on Sunday, Nov. 14, 2004, Fr. Neville announced from the pulpit that: “If anyone does not believe in baptism of desire or believes that only those water baptized can be saved, do not come to Communion, as I will refuse you.” Since Fr. Neville is a notorious heretic, who imposes his heretical and Christ-mocking position (see John 3:5) upon those who attend his church, Catholics should avoid this pestilential heretic and not receive any sacraments from him or attend his Mass.Ockerse (Fr.) of the SSPX in Canada:
Fr. Ockerse of the SSPX refers to sedevacantists as “cockroaches” and “stupid.” He refers to what sedevacantists say as "stupidness" and to them as "spewing forth vomit.” He also believs that souls can be saved in false religions, which is the official position of the SSPX. Since Fr. Ockerse of the SSPX denounces the sedevacantists, a Catholic should avoid this heretic’s Mass and not receive any sacraments from him. We have been informed that Fr. Ockerse’s position is shared by Fr. Angele and Fr. De Vriendt of the SSPX in Calgary. Thus, they should be avoided as well.Ontonello (Fr.) of California:
Fr. Ontonello celebrates a Traditional Latin Mass in Santa Clara, California. He throws out of his chapel people who even criticize the apostate John Paul II, let alone those who don’t believe that John Paul II is the Pope because he is a clear-cut apostate. Since Ontonello is a notorious heretic who imposes his heresy, Catholics should avoid this heretic’s Mass and not receive any sacraments from him.Post (Fr. Gregory) of the SSPX in TN:
Recently, three friends of mine, two Protestant and one Novus Ordo, have converted to the true Catholic Faith, accepting all the dogmas. We have attempted to seek sacraments at the local SSPX mass which is offered in Nashville and Memphis, TN. Fr. Gregory Post is who normally says mass there. After giving some of your monastery's articles to the chapel owner/groundskeep a few weeks ago, my friends and I were instructed after the Easter Vigil Mass last night that no one may speak of any sedevacantist ideas on the chapel grounds. Fr. Post then proceeded to go on a tirade and irrationally attack the sedevacantist position in public before several chapel attendees in the parking lot. When defense was given, citing various magisterial sources, including pointing out that the SSPX position denies the "magisterium" of the "pope" they claim to follow, Fr. Post threatened to have me arrested if I ever showed up on the property again! This was his response to my simple question in front of the crowd in the parking lot as to why he rejects Vatican II when Paul VI said it was dogmatic.
I wanted to let you know so that you could add him to your list of false traditional priests that publicly seek to impose heresy. At the same time, however, my friends that are new converts were able, I hope, to see the irrational, and heretical nature of the SSPX position.
Sincerely, J. D.
MHFM: Thank you, since Fr. Post is an imposing heretic he should be completely avoided.Roberts (Fr.) of York, PA.
Formerly of the SSPX, we’ve been informed that this “traditionalist” priest has spoken about the need to "obey the hierarchy" and gave a sermon on "ugly traditionalists" who think they're better than other Catholics (Novus Ordo followers). Since he is imposing his heresy, no Catholic should attend his Mass.Ringrose (Fr.) of Virginia:
Fr. Ronald Ringrose is a complete heretic who publicly denounces “Feeneyites” (i.e., those who believe the dogma that only baptized Catholics can be saved). Thus, he mocks Church dogma. Since Fr. Ringrose notoriously imposes his heresy upon those at his chapel, a Catholic should avoid this pestilential heretic’s Mass and not receive any sacraments from him. Fr. Ringrose also publicly denounces sedevacantism.Sanborn (Bishop Donald):
Bishop Sanborn believes that souls can be saved in false religions, and he kicks out of his church anyone who doesn’t believe in “baptism of desire.” Bishop Sanborn believes that non-Catholics, including Jews and pagans, can be saved by “invincible ignorance” and baptism of desire. Since Sanborn is a notorious heretic who imposes his heresy upon those at his Mass, Catholics should avoid this pestilential heretic’s Mass and not receive any sacraments from him.Ward (Fr.) of the SSPX:
Fr. Ward of the SSPX tells sedevacantists that they are not welcome at his chapel. Since Fr. Ward is a notorious heretic who imposes his heresy, Catholics should avoid this pestilential heretic and not receive any sacraments from him or attend his Mass.*More to be added later. Please inform us with any information that you have in this regard. The fact that a particular “traditional” priest is not mentioned here does not mean that we regard him as a Catholic or as one who can be supported. Any priest who believes that Benedict XVI is the Pope or that souls can be saved without the Catholic Faith cannot be supported by a Catholic until he changes his position.*
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